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It was pretty much like Slappy said... It was wet outside, I had shit tires, and I was just a complete idiot for driving the way I was (i.e. normal). I should have taken things into consideration more than I did. Hicas may play somewhat of a role if you're used to a vehicle that doesn't have it, then go drive a Z and get into a weird situation like I was in, but for the most part the ass end just broke loose under power on slick conditions and that was the end of it... =( Later, KaZ

ICQ - 22589000 / IM - KaZsMiR / E-mail - casimijg@jmu.edu 
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